Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he finds it hard to believe in the reliability of “certain countries or certain leaders” after the escalation of war in his country.

CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Zelensky in an exclusive interview if he found statements when world leaders use the term “never again,” a slogan associated with the Holocaust and often uttered after crimes against humanity, “hollow” now.

“You lost ancestors in the Holocaust. Every year on Holocaust Remembrance Day, politicians issue statements that say, never again, never again. Those statements must feel really hollow to you right now. When the world says never again, do they mean this?” asked Taper.

Ukraine’s president went on to say that he doesn’t even believe in documented security guarantees and international law as the war in Ukraine rages on and Russia is accused of alleged war crimes.

“Even I don’t believe in documents, because we also have a memorandum from Budapest – I think you know all the details about it. For me, it’s just a piece of paper and costs nothing” , said Zelensky.

Zelensky told CNN that his faith and belief are based on practical, tangible efforts and the people of Ukraine.

“We just believe in contractual and pragmatic things. If you are our friends or partners, give us arms, give us your hand, support us, give us money and stop Russia, give us a shot foot in Russia. You can do it if you are a friend. If you are thinking about this democracy and just right now because we have the same thoughts, if we are talking about freedom, not because we want to dialogue about the freedom,” he said.

Zelensky continued: “The only belief there is is belief in ourselves, in our people, belief in our armed forces and belief that countries are going to support us not only with their words but also with their actions. . And that’s it. Never again… Really, everyone’s talking about it and yet, as you can see, not everyone has the guts.”